SCV NewsBreak | Thursday, January 2, 2015
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The family of a Newhall man who was killed in a hit and run crash in San Diego needs your help. Assembly Bill 60 went into effect on Friday and will now allow undocumented immigrants to obtain drivers licenses. In their first ever debut in the Tournament of Roses parade, the Princess Cruises float won the Craftsman trophy. Firefighters responded to a Newhall house fire early on Thursday morning. After three decades of shaping young minds, Esther Kloth of Little Shepherds Nursery School has retired. Plus, the weather forecast for the coming weekend! Television viewers can catch the SCV NewsBreak on SCVTV at the top of every hour from 7 p.m. to 11 p.m., repeating the following morning at 6 a.m. and 8 a.m. SCVTV runs on Time Warner Cable Channel 20 and AT&T U-Verse Channel 99, and streaming on SCVTV.com. |
BREAK THE LAW…. GET A DRIVERS LIC. …..yeah… that makes sense… NOT!
Mike..so every illegal is a criminal? ?
We will round you all up and put you on trains to our fema camps to be exterminated !!!
Does that include; Mandatory insurance as well?? Registration of car, smog?
does it really matter? they are here, they drive, license or not; this is really a non issue it didnt stop them from getting behind the wheel to begin with. most wont get one anyway, everytime we amnesty illegals in no one shows. all afraid of being rounded up. i guess if you get in an accident you have a “chance” of getting the right information from them.
does it really matter? they are here, they drive, license or not; this is really a non issue it didnt stop them from getting behind the wheel to begin with. most wont get one anyway, everytime we amnesty illegals in no one shows. all afraid of being rounded up. i guess if you get in an accident you have a “chance” of getting the right information from them.
Just because you’re pro America does not make you racist or ignorant! Come here legally, enjoy 28/30% of your hard earned income go to supporting welfare recipients, ssi recipients, people on medi cal and other government programs who’ve never worked a day in their life and contributed to our economy like the rest of us! My family came here as immigrants, didn’t speak the language, but we learned ENGLISH, went to college, got jobs and learned how to obtain the American dream, never asked for a dime, did it on our own…..legally! It can be done!
Cheree, quit arguing with this ignorant bunch. They are haters of Americans.
Actually, I really wasn’t trying to argue with anyone! I just don’t understand how people who are here illegally don’t see or care that they’re breaking the law! Just because a person sneaks into our country without being caught, doesn’t mean it’s right! You can’t expect to want the same rights as Americans while you’re breaking our laws. People who originally emigrated here died for those freedoms, and continue to do so every day serving our country. I think those rights & freedoms should be respected, not taken advantage of.
Actually, I really wasn’t trying to argue with anyone! I just don’t understand how people who are here illegally don’t see or care that they’re breaking the law! Just because a person sneaks into our country without being caught, doesn’t mean it’s right! You can’t expect to want the same rights as Americans while you’re breaking our laws. People who originally emigrated here died for those freedoms, and continue to do so every day serving our country. I think those rights & freedoms should be respected, not taken advantage of.
But, Cheree, these haters think whites and I assume other races, think we deserve “respect” just because we are white? WTF is up with that? Never heard of that before, I expect to be treated as well as I treat any other person, no better no worse.
There are millions of stories that illegals could give for being here. But none of them negate their criminal status. Until Obama stepped in and waived his magic wand. Too bad that our laws no longer matter to the president.
Feel sorry for you
No need. I wish you the best. I believe in the law. Nothing wrong or bad about that. This is a great country and other folks from other countries come here to improve their lives. They want they want they want. If they come here legally that’s good. If they come here illegally they are criminals. Period. If you can’t understand that then I feel sorry for you.
correct me if im wrong but i see this all the time. —> americans [ Citizens ] always asking for money . on the other hand ” undocumented people asking for JOBS !
OK your kidding me right? THAT’S RACIST. I have seen u say everyone else on here is but then u go & post something like this? That’s ignorant. I have seen all shapes, sizes & COLORS of people asking for money on the streets. I have seen all people of shapes, sizes & COLORS looking for work. WE ALL BLEED THE SAME. Just because some people r on here people hateful does not mean u have to be. PROVE WHAT THEY ARE SAYING IS WRONG OK. Maybe try to understand some people are afraid of what they don’t know & instead of being hateful show them different. Smh.
OK your kidding me right? THAT’S RACIST. I have seen u say everyone else on here is but then u go & post something like this? That’s ignorant. I have seen all shapes, sizes & COLORS of people asking for money on the streets. I have seen all people of shapes, sizes & COLORS looking for work. WE ALL BLEED THE SAME. Just because some people r on here people hateful does not mean u have to be. PROVE WHAT THEY ARE SAYING IS WRONG OK. Maybe try to understand some people are afraid of what they don’t know & instead of being hateful show them different. Smh.
Undocumented is not a legal term. Illegal immigrant or criminal is the correct legal term.
You are so pathetic
Why because I believe in the rules of law and if my family could immigrate legally. So can others and those that skip the line and do it illegally should not be rewarded. Hum. Seems your pathetic.
There should be no border lines, that divide countrys just like this already is in other countrys, and people should be able to look for a better life in any other country
My gardener has a drivers license, he is Japanese. Our housekeeper has a license, she is an American. The first thing I told our contractor when he started our remodel was if anyone showed up that didn’t speak English the whole job stops. I don’t hire illegals. Maintaining my countries language and traditions is worth more than a few bucks saved hiring illegals. I’m more discusted with businesses hiring illegals than I am with illegals looking for work.
Good for you!
“Maintaining my countries language”?!
By the way you are expressing yourself, I am assuming you were born in the U.S.? However, your writing is like a “ESL” person!! SMH
They are in the system now…the government now knows where they live.Easier to deport, part of the big plan..wait and see……
And I can’t belive how racist people are!
Ok. I’ll take a crack at this post. Haha. I’m a lawyer. So, I get hated by everyone. No prob. First of all, California passes hundreds of laws every year – and nothing changes. Secondly, Let me relate a very poignant moment in my career. I was sitting in court during the traffic calendar. Judge Nash (San Fernando arraignment department) was handling the calendar. At one point (somewhere after the 30th driving without a license case was called), Judge Nash said, “I know a lot of you just cannot qualify for a driver’s license based on your immigration status. I understand that. Please just don’t kill anyone on the road.” He could have gotten in huge trouble for saying that. But, he was just being honest. The relationship between Mexico and the U.S. is unique. Our land used to be that of Mexico. Someone decided to sell it and, suddenly, Mexican land was grabbed from beneath the feet of Mexicans and they became “illegal” without moving an inch. Fast forward – NAFTA has annihilated Mexico’s economy and traditional industries and farming. So, just like the off-spin of the Viet Nam War – people come here. So, who makes the laws and who declares who “illegal”? It’s the rich a–holes who further gain from societal division. There are cultural problems between white and Latino culture. I’m tired of it. I taught in San Fernando for several years and I never experienced so much racism in my life. But, eventually, we kind of forgot who was who and it didn’t make a difference. It turned out that those were some of the best people and most memorable times I’ve ever had. We’re all way more in the same proverbial boat than we think. I don’t see skin color or the accent on someone’s lips. I see the smile in their eyes and the community responsibility to aid each other through our ordeals. So, while some of my friends – and they are my friends – might take issue with my position, I think this move is a positive one that has been a long time coming.
SCV TV, I can’t believe all the hate towards American citizens I see here.
i can’t believe you have so much hate towards undocumented people
U wish everyone hates you we have stuff to do…then to be hating on u
U be hating on me, so guess u have too much time on your hands.
Itzel, not true. I hate no one. I am hated for being white, Jewish, etc. etc., and I am not even those things. Just perceived as such. I’m a Latina Catholic.
Its funny you are a paisa racist with your own people how pathetic
That’s funny, Fernan-I am an American.
Look if u want respect will respect others and no one is hating on u!!
I’m not hating on you.
Wow, just wow. Racism at its finest.
This is one of many things that I do not like about this state and I am glad to be leaving it behind
Insurance? Good luck with that.
Its not fair illegal immigrants come to work and have a better life!! Now I feel bad about this becuz they want a better life for their children I just disagree with this…smh
So it means you dont want your parents to be able to drive in cali?
Noo I disagree when people just talk bad stuff about immigrants that is what im trying to say it’s about time that Santa Clarita does something like this cuz back then if you don’t have a license they’ll to you too jail or get arrested… they’re are racist over there u must of have taken it in a bad way….
Yeah actually this new law is apply in many states and all over CA, before they would take your car away for a whole month and make you pay about 1600. Its great that undocumented people can now drive with out fear of loosing it all
True… but I mean there’s always gonna be people disagreeing with this u know n its not right cuz there the same as latinos with or without papers…smh
Issac Barrera….you just posted the stupidest thing I’ll read all day…lol
Issac Barrera….you just posted the stupidest thing I’ll read all day…lol
If I snuck across the border into Canada, should I expect that they’ll let me get a Canadian driver’s license? No…and I’m fairly certain most other countries would agree with them.
You sure can go to many other countrys and drive with no problem
If you enter illegally? Only if you don’t get caught!
If you enter illegally? Only if you don’t get caught!
No, actually americans can enter México and drive with no prob. And are more than welcome, we are not close minded or racist
Actually, President Calderon mandated that foreigners can only stay in Mexico for 180 days without obtaining an FM-T visa (tourist visa). So, Mexico has the same laws as the U.S. to live there. After 180 days, you are there illegally. Remain in country with your vehicle and it will be confiscated.
And anyone is welcome to come visit the U.S., drive and enjoy the sights! We love having visitors! But if you intend to stay, you have to go through the right channels. It’s the law!
And just like you said in another post here, before the license ruling they would take your car for a month and make you pay $1600 to get it back. MEXICO confiscates your vehicle too!!! Would you also break the law in Mexico?
If I snuck across the border into Canada, should I expect that they’ll let me get a Canadian driver’s license? No…and I’m fairly certain most other countries would agree with them.
This isn’t about “hate”….illegal is illegal…PERIOD!
Another reason why our state sucks. So now licensed and undocumented people can crash into you. And get away without paying anything. Because all they have to do is find another name. It’s happened to me twice.
Ignorance at its finest… To get a license you still have to provide legal foreign documentation. You prob can’t just walk in and make up a name and walk out with my new license. If anything it’s before this happened that people could crash and not pay cause they didn’t have to give you a real name.
Ignorance at its finest… To get a license you still have to provide legal foreign documentation. You prob can’t just walk in and make up a name and walk out with my new license. If anything it’s before this happened that people could crash and not pay cause they didn’t have to give you a real name.
You can it happens all the time. I work in the same field with undocumented immigrants and they have told me how it’s done. So maybe do some checking before you cast dispersions. So you might be the one who is ignorant for not checking facts. That’s right I said facts. Oh by the way go down to the Social Security bldg. and see how easy it is to get a SSN.
Thank you Brent!!!! Seriously, people think it’s so hard to obtain a new identity! It’s not !
Brent u really need help . Eres un pendejo.
Douglas coming from you I’ll take that as a compliment. Like they say ignorance is bliss. Just try to investigate. Im not just speaking out of my ass. I’ve seen it with my own eyes. God bless.
Great news for my Mexican people (mi raza)
They are illegal, not just undocumented.
So what?
So what? See, that’s exactly the problem. You don’t care that they’re breaking the law being here illegally, and neither do they. I feel sad for all of you…
So what? See, that’s exactly the problem. You don’t care that they’re breaking the law being here illegally, and neither do they. I feel sad for all of you…
Ridiculous. I hope the insurance agency next door gets just as
Much business… I doubt it…
Castro wtf look ur self in a mirror ur latino , no matter how white ur trying to be. Or kissing white ass.
Crazy your a paisa and are racist
I’m not a racist just some one who speaks the truth if you don’t like it go back to where you came from. I’m. American
I’m not a racist just some one who speaks the truth if you don’t like it go back to where you came from. I’m. American
If you’re here illegally & are UNdocumented, should you have the privileges afforded American citizens? I don’t think so. First, obtain a work visa and come here legally, just as it’s required in every other country. Then again, a license puts that person into the fingerprint system, so they can be located by authorities if need be. No matter their ethnicity or where they come from, they need to follow our laws, become documented and pay taxes like the rest of us. I think everyone deserves the opportunity to live a good life, but starting it off illegally in our great country is not the way to do it…
You really think it’s easy huh?
It worked that way for all the Colonists but I guess that’s the American motto -“I’ve got mine, you can’t have yours”
Cheree, it is implacable how far your ignorance . Not ALL Americans contribute to the economy by paying taxes. Check all the jails and prisons, those are citizens milking MY taxes to live for free and continue to be criminals. Americans are no angels. At least this ppl come to work and do the labor all “you Americans” are not willing to do. Many times they are not even paid minimum wage. And thanks to them you pay $2 a pound of tomatoes. So, please don’t open your mouth unless you are an economist or a person who has brains
Oh, no… not at all Lucy Romero! I know it’s a long and difficult process. I have many friends back home in California and here in Montana who have gone through it. Cubans, Mexicans, Canadians, and an African. Our church has built housing & Christian camps in Tecate & La Rumarosa in Mexico for over 30 years, so I’ve seen poverty first hand. I truly do want people to come here for a new & better life! But our laws must be followed.
Why are you all being so hostile? I wasn’t saying anything mean or rude! I grew up in the San Fernando Valley in the melting pot of So. California… I’m even an honorary Martinez & proud of it!!! Don’t let the color of my skin fool you…I like everybody! :) I’m just voicing my opinion folks, not forcing it on you at all. That definitely IS my right as an American! And hey, I don’t want tomatoes at $2/lb. if a worker didn’t get fair wages for that work! That’s my point: if you come to the U.S. legally, you reap all the benefits the rest of us do! I’ve always thought the welfare system would work better if people reported in each weekday morning, dropping their kids at a state-provided daycare, and then bussed out to local businesses, farms, etc. to learn a trade! At the end of each week of work, they would be paid. Work hard, learn a skill, be successful! That’s my dream for every American! :)
Cheree Davis Bailey, know ur screwed up system before u talk. There is nothing options for us , please educated ur self before taking.
Listen, I was polite and now I’ve had enough. I’m well educated, Douglas Castillo. I know the system. Try learning to write well, and you’ll go far. And no one chooses life for you; you make it yourself! That’s how this country was founded…hard work, dedication and honest people. Enter this country illegally, face the consequences. Live the American way (that’s the point right? To BECOME an American?!) or stay home…your choice. Geez! Angry, bitter people! I’m not the enemy! :/
Cheree, don’t bother, they are haters.
Cheree, you are right.
Becoming a citizen or getting a green card is not easy. Not easy in any country. We have bad citizens and they pay for their criminal acts, see our prisons.
People who come here illegally are criminals. Plus, not all illegals are good people! Illegals commit crimes all the time!
Giving amnesty to illegals is absolutely terrible! This is a nation of laws. We are a great nation and illegals are too lazy to use the system to become a citizen. Illegals should go home and put their efforts into making their country a better place to live!
Now they also need insurance, this is nothing more than revenue generation for the state and insurance companies
So wrong
Why?
They are illegals. Become legal then get the privileges here. It’s only right
But that’s not the point and this is just the beginning
Finally!
Illegals are notorious for changing residence… Do you think they are going to feel a responsibility to file for a new address with the DMV?
Notorious!!! How many do you know, maybe ur ILLEGAL.
Ha Ha Mr. Castillo.!
God bless you Lynda Mollica-Boisselle you really need it
Douglas Castillo is a real hoot. Thinks I am a Jew. I wonder how he likes my Native American background? HA
Good, now they can get tickets like the rest of us!
They do get tickets like you do except you get to drive home they get their cars towed
Diana Stubblefield any other question??? THANK YOU Adrii Rivas.
Wow you’re an ignorant I feel sorry for you!
Although the DMV will be an even more absolute nightmare. Here’s to hoping they will build more…
Yes, that’s what I was saying, glad they can be more like citizens and receive a ticket and not be towed! Take it with a grain of salt. I fully support immigration, that is what our country was founded on!
Diana, if you don’t have an Hispanic last name, don’t bother with these haters, they will find something wrong with everything you say.
I’m not hating in anyway nor am I insulting her either I’m just stating facts!
And Diana Stubblefield thank you we need alot more people like you supporting these immigration laws so that one day people would stop with their hate and racism so they can get a better job and get an education!
Hmm, are they required to take Drivers Ed as well before they get their license?
Wtf, next time u see a LATINO not Mexican but latino driving next to you, ask ur self is he legal. And ur last name is latino what a shame.
I’m not Latino. And my husband who is Spanish and Italian is outraged as well. Maybe you should not be so quick to assume. I didn’t even say anything about anyone being legal. I merely asked about drivers ed… You should really think before you respond.
Good for you Amy. This guy is obviously looking for any reason to be offended and get defensive and play the poor me card just because he has a Hispanic last name.
That’s ok, Amy – they are hating on me because they think I am Jewish. Somehow, the Jews get pulled into everything. LOL
Lol. The uneducated are prone to stereotyping.
Do you think they’ll have to separate lines
Complain all you want but it’s happening and who’s stopping it NO ONE hahaha arriba mi raza!!!!!
Your raza stinks
I’m sure we smell better than you :P
Smh!
You are all pretty horrible on here,. haters.
Doesn’t supreme me. Thought the lines were bad enough
This is wonderful new and way over due.
Thank you, can we get some natives opinion on this , I would love to hear their opinion on this.
At least my raza is not hateful like you all here. I’m native American so you all are illegal, including Jorge, and all the haters who think I should not have a cat.
I am 1/8th Hopi Indian. I’m also German, English, Dutch, Welsh, Scotch & Irish! That’s what runs in my blood, but I am American through & through! ;)
Newhall is full of illegals, the traffic was terrible around the DMV today. Wrong on every level.
But yet I’m sure you have a Gardner and a house cleaner who is Hispanic . Smh
But yet I’m sure you have a Gardner and a house cleaner who is Hispanic . Smh
Yet you can barely stand them
Yet you can barely stand them
XD every time your eat a fruit or vegetable some immigrant most likely wiped there ass on it
Keep on loving ur f!@# cat , cus at the end of day that’s all you left , I feel sorry for you such a lonely person full of hate.
How can you smile with a heart full of hate? People like you make me sad.
Illegals – what a disgusting term. PS Your cat secretly hates you
Jayne I feel sorry for you, but your hate won’t stop our people to get the Drivers License, now they are following the LAW
Look you jewish lady u better watch out what your saying cuz u people are also illegal what ever race you are!!
What a bunch of haters you all are! At least I do everything legally and pay all your fkn bills for you.
Stephanie, from Bowman High. wow I am intimidated.
Douglas Castillo, you look like such a nice family man, why the hate? My Hispanic friends (yes I have many) agree that it is unfair that they earned citizenship the hard way while others just get it free.
Newsflash – I am not Jewish, but if I were, that is double the hating from you.
YOUR people? How divisive.
That’s non of your business where I graduated
everytime i read your damn comments makes me just wanna slap you !
That’s her real pic she look so nice and smart that I can’t believe she is really saying these stupidity !!! I feel sorry for u!! Jayne
Stephanie, THEN TAKE IT OFF FACEBOOK! sheesh.
Oh Adrianna, I said nothing stupid, I was told I was a Jew and that not even a cat would like me, all by strangers. That scene at the DMV was just – crazy. Do that many people not care if they become citizens or not? Which country are they loyal to? Do they want to be American or do they want to be (whatever) ? We are all immigrants, with the exception of my Native American family history. So, come, be productive, raise decent families. Keep the kids out of trouble and stop scribbling graffiti on the signs. Then, it’s all good.
I am saddened by the many hateful, hurtful & unnecessary comments toward people voicing their opinions, whether pro or con. Express your opinions & have a civil debate. Attacking someone makes you lose all credibility. Stephanie Silva, your anti-semetic comment above was the most offensive I have read. It is your opinion & I will respect that, but why do you believe Jews are “illegal”? You stated (or threatened): “Look you jewish lady u better watch out what your saying cuz u people are also illegal what ever race you are!!” My daughter attended Bowman and I’m proud of that but she learned about the Holocaust & the plight of the Jews, didn’t you?
Immigration should hang out at the DMV and round em up and ship em home
From a church going man. How nice.
Is this what your god teaches you? What Is heaven also for certain race? XD dumb!
Now all of you won’t have to call and complain to your Gardner ,house cleaner , or pool cleaner when they skipped your house because their car got towed since they didn’t have a drivers license !!!
Forgot the nannies who raise their children. You’re funny! Lol!!
Our housekeeper is legal and is just as pissed off as I am. She is Hispanic by the way.
What a Shame on her to forget where she or her parents came from and the struggle it was to see wolfs tow your car full of your tools to get the job done to provide for their families.
What a Shame on her to forget where she or her parents came from and the struggle it was to see wolfs tow your car full of your tools to get the job done to provide for their families.
Jayne I’ve seen that kind of Ignorants like ur Housekeeper, They get a work permit, they don’t want speak Spanish and hate their own people, what a shame
By the way you don’t deserve to own a pet with so much hate in your heart
You are all so ignorant.
I’m not ignorant I’m saying it how it is.
My housekeeper is educated and classy she is not ignorant.
If she’s educated what’s she doing as a housekeeper smh
That’s what she wants to do.
Lol Jayne, no educated person is going to pick up your dirty clothes or clean your nasty bathroom. You can pretend she is legal and educated but in reality you know she is uneducated and has no papers in which you can pay her unfair wages. Please like idk ppl like you
I’m an educated professional Latina, and your entire retirement won’t be able to pay me for a month of my wages
Gabriela, you have no idea who I am or what I am worth in dollars or any other way. My housekeeper loves my family, has an education and is an American citizen. So, if you are educated, you will understand this, without any abbreviations necessary. Oh, and before I forget, you most likely can’t pay my year of taxes with a year’s worth of your income.
Anytime Jayne, show me your taxes which you probably don’t even understand yourself but I will do a free service for you and explain them to you since I’m an CPA ( Certified Public Accountant, in case you don’t know what that stands for) And I will be glad to pay taxes to the older in need. I understand Medicare and social security doesn’t pay enough for the elders. So it will be my pleasure to help an old, cranky, heartless and resentful person.
Wow, what an angry person you are! I feel so sorry for you. I’ll have my CPA call you at your office to arrange a conference.
People working on citizenship pay taxes. People paid in cash, under the table, do not.
Sonya know. I might be ignant and all. Lol it’s ok. I don’t mind.
the written test should be in english then since thats what our signs are…
Nice one dude
well if you know, they do..! because they take two test. one with just regular questions (that are on Spanish & are 55-60 questions), and the second one are the signs test. the signs test are on english. (they are 15 question)
Based on your writing sample, that’s debatable!
Tully Moxness
ok don’t trust on my writing. but you can call to the DMV and ask. you will see that it’s true.
Tully Moxness
ok don’t trust on my writing. but you can call to the DMV and ask. you will see that it’s true.
guess what most of the undocumented immigrants are bilingual… So don’t worry about it!!!
Well I’m glad I’m don’t need to go to DMV until all the idiots are done !!!
What did she said?
There is no need for insults or any type of racial comment!
A face you can trust:
If anything you are the IDIOT.
Lol….
I feel sorry for you
U will go soon and u will see us hahahahaha
They do pay taxes they just don’t file a return and collect that money stays with the state
Good for them.
It’s just a way to track immigrants. Now the government has their names, numbers, and addresses.
Check the congress laws bro
And Thumbprint!
Efrain is a hater
How’s he a hater mrs.?^ just because he’s speaking the truth?
How’s he a hater mrs.?^ just because he’s speaking the truth?
Friday January 2,2015
John A, they do pay taxes just like you and I do.
Citizenship is not obtained via a drivers license. Licensing = documentation. Documentation = Taxing.
Drivers License = Fingerprints
Where’s ICE when you need them?
I’m pretty sure minding their own business! Just like you should be doing too!
Wow! You sure told me. Lol
Amen
Amen
Waaaahhhh I don’t like what that man said so I’m going to out up pointless memes and posts
What a mess..
They should become legal citizens and pay taxes like the rest of us. Then they wouldn’t need to worry about not being able to get a drivers license.
They do pay taxes. When my mom was working on her citizenship, she worked and paid taxes. She just couldn’t file a return since she didn’t have a social security card. But hey, who cares if people think you’re ignorant, am I right?
John, get informed before you comment, they do pay taxes using a number issued by the IRS, believe me, Facebook is not the right place to get educated
It could take a decade to become a “legal citizen” the process is beyond belief.
A great many illegals work under the table and don’t pay taxes. Their employers don’t report that.
It’s not one ‘comment’ fits all that relates to illegals except that they are here illegally.
They are, were, criminals until now thanks to Obama.
They drive regardless The good thing is that they will now be able to have car insurance
You can have insurance even if you don’t have a driver license
Ohh I didn’t know
Most immigrant non licensed drivers do not have insurance. And the ones who do pay a higher rate. An Insurance company can deny a claim if the driver is not licensed. This will allow them to gain a license and obtain low cost insurance.